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  1. Thank you. I love good explanations. I wonder if there is an error…

    “There are a few exceptions, which I list below. I give first the nominative singular and then the ablative singular.”

    This had me running to an explanation of the ablative….

    1. Oops, you are right! I will correct this. I’m glad you liked the explanations, and this is a reminder that I need to write a post about the ablative!

  2. Nancy Ballance says:

    Livia,
    This is grand. I taught English grammar and writing and ancient history to 12 and 13 year olds. Most grammar books are dull and in their lack of sparkle. Well stated points get lost. This has sparkle and wonderful clarity. I tumbled to the fact that my 12 years old boys would eat up Homer if I read the Iliad to them and they were amazing in diagramming and parsing each line. ( not their favorite part of Homer. I was introducing them to Latin ( unheard of in California) and this would have been great!

    1. Hi Nancy, I am so glad that you think this post has sparkle! I try to make my explanations interesting as well as informative. That’s great that you were reading the Iliad to your students and introducing them to Latin. Not everyone has the opportunity to experience Latin so young!

  3. I love this, thank you! I might have missed them somewhere, but I think there are no examples of sentences using the vocative adjective case and I’m a confused on when that would be used. But happy I know how to spot it!

    1. Hi Meggan, I am so glad you loved the post! Oops, you are right about there being no examples with an adjective in the vocative – I have fixed this now 🙂

  4. RALPH M PRITCHETT says:

    Thank you for covering 2nd declension adjectives in the vocative. I can’t find it in my texts or Allen and Greenough.

    1. You are welcome, Ralph! I try to make my posts as comprehensive as possible.

      Allen and Greenough do comment briefly on the vocative of adjectives at §110a, but the section is so brief as to be unhelpful. That’s why I have gone into more depth here 🙂

  5. Thank you for the clear explanations. Could you please say more about the position of vocative forms in the sentence? I was taught that a vocative form is never the first word. Therefore, as you write, Ō bona rēgīna, sapiēns es, but you also have Māter, cūr tacēs?

    1. Hi David, excellent question! I was never taught this, but I did some digging and Bennett’s Latin Grammar does say at §350.3 that the vocative “usually follows one or more words.” This is not a hard-cut rule, though, since my quick search of the Latin literary corpus turned up examples of sentences beginning with a vocative. (E.g. Plautus Truculentus 577: “Noster Cyame, quid agis?”)

      Allen and Greenough’s, which is my go-to Latin grammar, says nothing about the placement of the vocative within a sentence. But the first example sentence is Livy ii.10, which puts the vocative first: “Tiberīne pater, tē, sāncte, precor!” Ultimately, I would conclude that the vocative is less likely to be the first word in a sentence, but it isn’t impossible.

  6. Unfortunately, my language skills are limited to English and I am battling to understand what case the latin phrase for “Friends! Romans! Countrymen! Lend me your ears” is. When I read the information I think it is Vocative because it is in my mind a direct address or a command. However, my initial thought was it could be Nominative but Vocative seems to fit better. Am I right or wrong? Any advice appreciated.

    1. Hi Brian, the words in “Friends! Romans! Countrymen!” would all be in the vocative case. This is because, as you intuited, Marc Antony is here directly addressing his fellow Romans. We use the nominative for the subject of a sentence, so for instance if you said “My friends lend me their ears”, “friends” would be in the nominative.

      I hope this helps! 🙂

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